1 John 5:7-8 — "The Comma Johanneum"

Whether the Trinitarian formula in 1 John 5:7-8 ('the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one'), found mainly in late Latin manuscripts, is considered part of the original text.

Overall consensus49/100

Amish (Old Order)

Amish (Old Order)

Anabaptist

Nuanced

Not in earliest MSS; later interpolation; Trinity already firmly established

The 'Comma Johanneum' (1 John 5:7-8) is not found in the earliest Greek manuscripts but appears in Latin and later tradition. The Amish recognize this implicitly through textual exposure. However, Amish affirmation of the Trinity does not depend on this verse—it is affirmed through the Dordrecht Confession and other scriptural testimony.

The Amish pragmatic approach: if the verse appears in their Bible, its theological content is true; but its absence from earliest MSS does not disturb their faith. The doctrine of the Trinity is so foundational that textual questions do not create theological crisis.

Key Distinctions

Textual status:
later interpolation; absent from earliest Greek MSS
Trinitarian grounding:
Trinity already firmly established from other Scripture
Canonical status:

Scripture References

Sources

  • Luther Bible; textual evidence in critical scholarship